~VV~ Velkyn Velve

[Ford Prefect]

I was in this guild called Velkyn Velve I know many of you know them. Well they were the first guild to get me to start rp'ing.......boy was that a mistake. Anyway it was a great guild, with many great players and hey since I haven't seen a thread about them yet I made one so who else is still here from VV?

[DininDarkstar]

im an old VV member from monarchy days never flew there banner in evernight though

[68guy]

Dinin is a little shit. He's the reason VV disbanded, they were obviously high when they let him in.

*hides*

[Marious-]

Im still using my old ~VV~ icon..

I don't have any way to make new ones yet.

[Belgarion]

I was in VV off and on during Cruella's reign I believe. I'm not sure how dinin got in. He can barely spell let alone make anything resembeling RP.

[JaenosJelantru]

I was in VV for a short stint thanks to Marious.

[Biggles]

VV really went on a decline once RR got started, since they more or less leeched away all the talented folks.

They had a nice start, but after RR... well, they were just a mediocre guild trying to appeal to players by keeping a really old name. Calbrenar would be rolling over in his grave if he was in one.

At least LoF got better over time.

(And I believe I was a VV member for one age.)

[Sunblade]

As Zayin, right Biggles? Remember reading some of your RP (if that was you).

I was in VV for one age while it was led by Stargaze - I'd mark a big, big difference from that VV to the one which existed in Improv/Mo'Pri/Evernight.

[Kwaiq]

Wasn't Khal, Zayin, biggles was Lorien or something

[Sunblade]

There was a Zayin and a Zain from what I remember. Or something.

[Biggles]

I was Zain. Too many big nonsense fantasy words and overwrought emo plot lines. No one really knew how to RP with what I was doing, but that was mostly my fault for being so epic and not being in RR or something.

[Khalistov]

I was Zayin, Sunny.

[Raknarak]

Stargaze brought ~VV~ to Mo'Pri. It was still a decent RP guild and had some very well respected and skilled players. Things happened within the leadership, and in RL, so ~VV~ kind of went down. Though, from my time, I know that each member tried their best to keep ~VV~ a well respected guild with the best RP that the players could put forth.

With my Tkaro alt, I was in ~VV~ for a time, sponsored by Kyhera.

[Euphractus]

Yah I helped convince Stargaze to move VV to Mo'Pri. He was talking about disbanding the guild [which in hindsight might have been better], but I argued that he should move to Mo'Pri instead. I spent a lot of time convincing him how good Mo'Pri would be.

I feel kind of guilty about that, but at the time I was thinking that we (SoS and VV) could get some nice RP together and that would bring SG back. He was talking about how busy he was though so I should have known better.

[Querion]

Think I first joined ~VV~ when it move to Mo'pri, when Stargaze was still GM for a while. Stayed with ~VV~ till its disbandment after that. Were fun times, tho many a veteran have accused Cruella with the degradation of the Velve. I never saw it that way, it's always the people who are in the guild who define the quality. And according to my memory, the Velve still had one of the most solid players of those times....

[Alex_Greystone]

Stargaze was one of my favorite people that played this game. He was a good guy.

[Khalistov]

From my perspective, there were 3 or 4 versions of ~VV~.

You'll find the people from the earliest ages citing the "real" ~Velkyn Velve~ being the core of some of the originals, people such as Calbrenar, Rhuin, Stargaze, Zin and Longtooth.

When I arrived in ~VV~ (as Zayin) in the age of Rebirth, the guild was quite formidable with the additions of folks like Murchad, Tanin al Vhor, Elyamak, Sien, Marquette, Elkor, and Skull. Zain came along in the next age, Tahnor. I identify the old ~VV~ with the folks in the guild around that time.

With the switch to Mo' Pri, some people tried to claim that the guild was not 'the guild that it used to be', which I disagree with to some extent (although I'll admit that it was a transitional stage for the guild in which many faces changed, and therefore may be called another version of ~VV~). Stargaze and Murchad were still there for a while, as were many others who were in the guild when I had joined. Stargaze faded off and Khyera took over as GM and I took over as AGM. Shortly thereafter I led what could be called a coup and overthrew Khyera because she was dictating to the players who they could and could not RP with. At that point we had people like Maverick, Venus, and CaerLith in ~VV~. The core of the Allusarian Knights (Glorfindel, Zahla (Verena), Cruella, and Marious) came over, as well as Von Rex and several others. The guild may not have been comprised of all of the originals, but it was still as skilled and dominant as it had been in Guilds. After I left, Von Rex took over, and then Cruella followed after him (to the best of memory). And most would probably agree that the latter years of Cruella's reign were yet again another version of ~VV~.

Although Cruella took a lot of blame for ~VV~ eventually not being the guild that it once was (years later), she was the longest standing GM of the guild, and earned her right to be recognized as such. Every other GM before her didn't last more than a couple of ages before passing the torch.

In conclusion, most of the players from the pre-Mo'Pri days are not around amy longer, while several of the Mo'Pir / Improv / Maxim ~VV~ players are still around.

(I believe that my recollection of the history is accurate, but hey, I'm getting old)


Zayin
~VV~

[Mykayla]

I was in ~VV~ for a short time under Cruella. I actually remained on the email list for a long while after I quit the guild. It was during that time that I got named VV Vixen (why..I don't know) and started my whole Mykayla as cheerleader gig.

[Lathrop]

Nice walk down memory lane. I wasn't one of the original members, but joined up when Murchad was there and stayed with Cru for a while too.

[Lasher]

Yup, I joined up when Zayin was leading.. Mav and V used to drag me everywhere.. NOW.. I own them instead

and then I think ~VV~ disbanded and we all joined Caer'Liths guild..

[SoulDemon]

I was in VV for real one of the last ages Rhuin led it. I think I may have toyed around in VV under stargazes rein as well. THere were times when DB would team up with VV under VV's guild banner for large wars agaisnt MECH and COR ;p


SG still visits here from time to time, surprised he hasn't posted. Just talked to him a few months ago on ICQ I believe.

[*Suvantar*]

I always thought the decline of VV was largely due to the break in continuity that occurred when Mo'Pri was started. The guild was taken from a world where it had built up all of this history and plunked down into a newly starting world where it really didn't have that sort of identity.

In fact, I thought that was what happened to SoS as well. In addition, because its history was disrupted, it lost a good many of its roleplay partners because some guilds stayed in guilds and others moved to Mo'Pri.

[Stargaze]

It's funny, I live life at a much quicker pace now than I used to, and still there's always something that draws me back to this place from time to time. I could blame this phenomenon on simple memory...but it's more than that.

I just stumbled back here on a whim today. There's a lot of history here, and I've neither the audience nor the pomposity to retell it all now. I will say, in the interest of fairness, that I believe Cruella's role in ~VV~'s "decline" has historically been exaggerated. The guild was on a downward trend before that, and had survived rather than thrived on its past reputation for an age or two. It is, however, perhaps true that the transition to Mo'Pri was a watershed moment in ~VV~'s history. The funny thing is that at the time most of the members, and ~VV~'s most worthy and beloved partner guilds were making or debating the same transition. Despite our winning tradition, it turns out that perfection achieved, or at least something reasonably close, can be a very boring mode of existence.

Anyway...there are some familiar names in here. Nice to see you all. Now that stuff seems to be moving along at evernight, perhaps I will have to poke around a bit.

~Stargaze
~TFF~

[Euphractus]

I've had a fondness in my heart for VV for most of my time here. I don't want to hijack the thread but did want to make a brief reply.

I always thought the decline of VV was largely due to the break in continuity that occurred when Mo'Pri was started....

In fact, I thought that was what happened to SoS as well.

I can see why it might have seemed that way, but it wasn't the case for SoS at least. In fact initially Mo'Pri helped reinvigorate the the Suzerain.

I had been arguing for some time to disband the guild because we weren't putting in the time we needed to do a really good job. This was partly due to the loss of novelty. One of the selling points of Improv/Mo'Pri was that rule would be constantly changing. This was one of the key points (along with RP) that made us make the move rather than disband.

The fact that StarGaze was sounding like he would move VV there as well just sealed the deal because then we knew we'd have a good opponent (well not in the moral sense ;p)

Despite our winning tradition, it turns out that perfection achieved, or at least something reasonably close, can be a very boring mode of existence.

I found the most fun in SoS was when we were unknowns and trying to prove ourselves. I can easily see why there could be a decline in interest by VV members given their established reputation.


Good to see you dropping by StarGaze.

Hope you are well

[~Ocelot~]

I did a short stint in the Velve. I remember Murchad for some reason the most. Man.. that seems like a long ass time ago.