{TURMOIL}War thread

[General Andy Icarn]

hmm I forgot to post late last night, but no response from pesh so far, I used 100 actions to build. He's yet to attack me again so I assume he's accepting peace, or else he's just too busy with other people.

[crazy_hackuma]

i killed 2 of his kingdoms

[General Andy Icarn]

you seem to have a talent for attacking those people who won't or can't effectively beat down the less than 8 kingdoms you have. Or maybe part of it has been the times when you've suggested people you might attack and I mentioned they were kingdoms belonging to people many times your worth that might be beyond your size at that time.

But it looks like you've got some of the top Barnies now which is pretty shocking.

[Dick Bankier]

Top barnies...

Where?

[General Andy Icarn]

somewhere around rank 236 I think

[crazy_hackuma]

yeah, i guess i have been lucky. Plus your advice

[General Andy Icarn]

After two days of building I went back to war, didn't figure I should risk anymore time than that. I was going to 3v3 but then found another dom with 1k defensive t1 and like 7k thieves on 22k acres and figured I'd add them too. Luckily it seems these Angies were not multifaith allied to the top Letos and indeed the one belonged to the same player as the other 3 (varied leadernames).

I gambled that all the top Letos were Arioch and Bundes, not Arioch, Bundes and Mystery Princess player. *shrug*

This was the only war that was anywhere close to within my range as Bundes was 5.365m tnw and what doms I think belong to Arioch were 5.650m tnw, while mine was 3.441m tnw with my tops in the 500-600k range having to face tops in the 900k-1m range...looking back maybe I would have had a slim chance, I dunno. Anyway I looked elsewhere.

No money was brought in from any other kingdoms but rome's, no scouts were taken accept by the kingdom that later joined to war with his 23k weakly defended one.

Prestats:

rome
23k
22k
22k
19k
tnw: 2.283m

Andy
19k
19k
17k
13k
5k - alliance breaker only, attacked 3 times then built
tnw: 2.014m + 172k breaker when fully forted = 2.186m

Poststats:

Andy
36k - loot/invade
35k - loot/invade
32k - loot/invade
15k - scouted, attempted invade, burned temples
7k - offered and built for 2k
tnw: 2.849m (3.075m with breaker)

rome
21k - came online after 2k taken and forted defensively and tried to sorc, was burned and looted
All others invaded to roughly 6k give or take.
tnw: 940k in 4

Left a message explaining the war and asking how many kingdoms they wanted to war with.

[muncheez]

Still at war with 3 people, have killed many of them, their attacks have subsided a bit, I am guessing someone else is working on them. I think they may have pissed someone off looking for my restarts. Fools, They probably never thought I would restart as blue and still kill their gold asses.

[General Andy Icarn]

I didn't have access when I maxed turns and so just finally made a second strike today. The guy made two retals on me before I was able to make a second set of hits and he brought down two kingdoms of mine in the 10-15k range, one each day with 4 of his plus a new 20-25k acre dom. I brought in another 12-13k acre dom in response and sorced that one down to maybe 6k built on 25k acres, reinvaded all other kingdoms down between 2-4k or so accept one he has left that I burned out for everything I could to maybe 10-12k built on 18-19k acres.

One of my restarts is 4k+ again.

[General Andy Icarn]

well...apparently hackuma forgot that I was warring with a certain single remaining top blue kingdom and attacked that particular number (there aren't many blue doms left up top). So the one remaining rome kingdom got wiped from 500k or more down to around 225k, and my war, which probably was mostly over anyway, got interrupted and my enemy got screwed.

If people want to know the series of events that led to my discovery of the facts...

I get online to check evernight while taking a break from writing a script for film class. I see I just got news in one of my kingdoms while popping from one subgame to the next and browsing forum. As it's one of my top 3 I check to see what's being done to it, cause it could be important, either someone's messing with me while I'm at war *coughBundesinneptscoutscough* or else maybe rome's trying something on the dom.

The news says I went and fought alongside hackuma against the last strong kingdom I'm warring with and failed miserably losing a lot of troops.

I message hackuma reminding him that I already told him to stay clear of that particular blue kingdom as I'm currently fighting the player and I message him again with the single news. Then I call him on the phone and repeat the same info. He tells me that he's since attacked it with other kingdoms and although the scrolls don't yet show it, it's now dropped really far.

So I told hackuma to stop attacking his kingdoms. To message him saying it was an accident and to look in forum for my post explaining things. And I said I'd repay the land.

Here's the message that was sent to rome...

I was going to message you telling you to let me know when you wanted peace, assuming at some point you do want peace, since you never message me back or post to forum. So first off if you want peace message me back and let me know. As far as I know you have/had only one dom left that was mostly intact and it is/was 1xxxx.
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Now I came to check evernight while taking a break from homework and I saw a news on one of my kingdoms that was allied with my friend hackuma, that was a failed attack on 1xxxx. I messaged him reminding him that I'd already told him to avoid 1xxxx since I was warring with it and then I called him on the phone as well. Apparently he has invaded 1xxxx for a sizable amount of land with other kingdoms. So I told him to first message you telling you he would no longer attack you since you'd been at war. I also said I come to an agreement with you about compensating you depending how much land you lost (from my kingdom(s) not his). Message me back and let me know what you want to do about this. Again unless he attacks you anymore please leave him alone and work out the attacks with me, as he's pretty new to the game and hasn't been through such a negotiation before.
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~Andy

[crazy_hackuma]

i attacked two kingdoms and now somebody is killing my markets with thieves. lol. I didnt even know that was possible. this is funny

[General Andy Icarn]

I think it's the other guy you just hit, his Letos just moved worth. That's what happens when you hit multiple people at once.

[crazy_hackuma]

im still learning

[General Andy Icarn]

Lucky for you I think he's all 3 multifaith. I warred him earlier this age and he only used like 6 doms against my reds.

[General Andy Icarn]

And of course no response from the Angie I was warring other than a sorcing of one of my midrange doms to 3k built. Ok fine then I'll just bring all of his kingdoms down to 2k or smaller and then see him attempt any sorcery or retals from there...*sigh* obstinate mfer.

[General Andy Icarn]

I hit back again since this person doesn't seem inclined to peace, I've instead focused on dropping him low enough he can't do much damage. I warred with 5 kingdoms trashing all but one to a fraction of what they were. Built quarries and temples in the top 3 just in case he's hiding some sorcers somewhere.

rome
11k -> 3k
7k -> ~500
6k -> too much trouble to get into without using top 3
3k -> ~750
2k -> ~500

I'm not sure exactly how to get peace from him, so atm war on...

[Dick Bankier]

just convince him that me or Arioch are to blame... we are running out of land to build anyways.

[Arioch]

I get on today to see my smallest almost skumkilled. I'll spare you the very long news scroll. After scouting 3 times in one minute here is first and last scum. Notice how long it took him lol. Still someone will pay for this. I'm fully built on most of mine and big enough to take on 2 or 3 players if I hit randomly(your safe Andy. I know you're too busy to use that many turns on one 18k dom). Time to play.

"1314 of our peasants and 1 Changelings were murdered last night. The people are talking bad about you, they no longer feel safe. 155 Kobold, 0 Orcs, 20 Trolls, 0 Changelings left in the night."
2007-02-27 02:10:27

"38 of our peasants were murdered last night. The people are talking bad about you, they no longer feel safe. 26 Kobold, 0 Orcs, 10 Trolls, 0 Changelings left in the night."
2007-02-27 06:09:41

[General Andy Icarn]

I can guarantee after his attacking two people at once hackuma isn't doing it, not to mention I don't think he's got 8 full doms oop. EB is fighting back against him too so I really doubt he's responsible either.

[Arioch]

Well I just dropped one EB kingdom before seeing your post. My reason was it had 10k+ thieves and little defense (not a good plan in the middle of a war). I'll leave all other kingdoms with an EB leader alone for now and hit others.

[crazy_hackuma]

yeah, im having a hard time against ----. thats what i get for attacking randomly

edit: cant i post kingdom leader names?

[General Andy Icarn]

poor EB

he's got like the only remaining angie anywhere toward the top of the scrolls and you just shanked him while he was at war.

darn people not posting their wars...

[Arioch]

His biggest is untouched. I hit the one with all the thieves for a good reason. crazy_hackuma, check your private messages please.

[General Andy Icarn]

apparently one of my 2k doms deserved another 31 sorcs...*shrug*

[General Andy Icarn]

I warred down his 6k dom to under 2k and then reforted everything else. I'm going to try to ignore his attacks if I can manage to rise above them or maybe he'll stop if I don't attack him...