The Gallows Combri/CCTV

[Kwaiq]

I don't appreciate members of my guild being scumkilled. Now i fully admit i have no hard proof that it was CCTV that did it. I didn't catch you red handed. However, the evidence doesn't piant you in a friendly light.

1) It was our smallest kingdom that was scumkilled. Barnabas wouldn't have wasted there turns when they have the resources to take out our biggest, like they did with Exile's king.

2) I have Barnabas' word it wasn't them. Now i know its foolhardy to just take a heathen at their word but I don't take Venus, Shifty, and Seska as liers. Deceivers yes, but bold faced liers? I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. While i didn't talk to Alias or Mav, I took Venus at her vouch for them. Plus it doesn't seem like they're style, all politics aside they play pretty honorably and i know Mav loves building. I just don't threaten any of them enough to warrant it.

3) It took almost 8 hours for you to finish the kill. Barnabas does have a lack of resources, they could have done it in one wave, again... just like they did Exile.

4) I scouted you after the kill and you had a total of 12 turns in your entire guild, all in one kingdom.

5) Nagash is suspect, he seems to have a bite of a reputation for this kind of thing. Plus he has been ridiculously under fluffed since the kill. Which is very suspect for someone with over 30k acres who hasn't been at war in over 2 weeks. Especially since you were ranked higher before the kill.

6) Your charter doesn't help your case

The Guild Rankings have Combri at 5 members, though truthfully we're my two kingdoms and Nethers one. Ones a restart from the kill and Nether finally decided to make another one shortly after. I'm not posting stats because thats not the point, we're bigger than you, although they would probably be closer than you'd think. So far only my two have hit and you've lost 30% of your NW. I expect Nether on your ass as soon as he gets online. Catch me on ICQ if you want to negotiate.

I don't like Scumkills and I'm willing to stab in the dark to stop it. Point made?

To the rest of Angelique, i hold no hositility towards you at this point in time. Theres bigger fish to fry, but i cannot accept being scumkilled. I hope you will see the bigger picture. Please catch me on ICQ if you have any questions i would be happy to further clarify my case.

[Reylan Talonspyre]

So this was what, a 200,000 average net worth down hit?

I understand your reasoning, it was extremely well-laid out, but without proof, you are just, as you said, stabbing in the dark. Meaning, this is just a down hit unless CCTV actually admits to it. Which they might, they do have some pretty interesting personalities.

Either that, and I am just going out on a limb here, this is an Angileto plan to give Combri more land so they can later anchor for a faith wide hit against Barnabas.

Either way the cookie crumbles, good luck to CCTV in this war, I am sure everyone will be watching this war closely.

[Nymphsong]

Either that, and I am just going out on a limb here, this is an Angileto plan to give Combri more land so they can later anchor for a faith wide hit against Barnabas.

Either way the cookie crumbles, good luck to CCTV in this war, I am sure everyone will be watching this war closely.

You believe to many conspiracy rumors. When your enemies are at war rest easy, when they resolve their differences, set stones upon the ramparts.

"Watches from a distance" to spite Reylan

[Gili]

I'm not in CCTV, i lost the will to play earlier this age....but a good chunk of your point 2 got me laughing so much i almost pissed myself.

In any case if it was CCTV, good work on beating those bitches!!!! And regardless of circumstances...get them CCTV

[_Nagash_]

I hit one of the bigger UG realms, my amount of open land will have told you that.

Don't hide behind bullshit Kwaiq. Just say you wanted the acres on my realm (was not much on the others) and get it over with. Especially saying that you believe the Barnies is either a big joke, or proof that you're an arseface. Choice is yours. War on!

[Kwaiq]

You got hit because one of Combri's kingdom was scum killed and all evidence points to you. I woulda been more than happy to continue building otherwise. If you refuse to believe that i don't really care. Stop the cowardly scumkilling!

[Mickal Redwater]

I'd like to see more evidence then "your kingdoms had no turns" considering everyone plays once a day... so its very often that we have no turns.

Anyone.. we'll try to make you pay as best we can.

[Ricardo]

Stop the cowardly scumkilling

I wud speak to your barnie friends again only cowards scumkilling around here wear the red colour

[_Nagash_]

You got hit because one of Combri's kingdom was scum killed and all evidence points to you. I woulda been more than happy to continue building otherwise. If you refuse to believe that i don't really care. Stop the cowardly scumkilling!

Please do show me the evidence then. Logic dictates that we'd scumkill Banies as they're the biggest faith. And in a possible hit on the Barnies we might want to team up with you.

We got logic on our side and I doubt that your evidence builds up to much more than some Barnies claiming it wasn't them. Again, I don't object to downhits much. But it's crap to try and justify them on the basis of bollocks.

[owly]

Go Combri

[Fireslash]

it could also be logical that you could want to coerce leto into hitting barnie so that you could have a little bit more time to finish building and pick up the pieces when we got done tearing each other apart

either way good luck killing each other

~Fire

[TheSartek]

Of course, by your logic Fireslash, why would they be scum killing if they wanted to finish building up? See, how things can be spun in a circle?

The fact here is, yet another Leto downhit an Angie target giving a lame excuse to do so. If you want to war, then by all means war. Quit coming up with bs to do it, just do it. Though I am beginning to think that you gold guys are afraid of the heathens in red.

[Kwaiq]

Nagash/mickal and the rest of CCTV- that all sounds good what your saying the hypothetical if/woulda statements. Of course none of it sounds like a proclamation of innocence. Which is interesting since it took all of 2 seconds to get that out of Barnies. If you want to paint Venus,Shifty and Seska as flat out liers thats fine, but i'm not buying it.

Now as to why you scumkilled a Combri kingdom i don't know. Maybe to rally us against Barnies, maybe it was just on a list of goals to scumkill a Combri kingdom, i mean have you read your own charter?

We won't be playing for honour, glory or other trivial and irrelevant goals. We merely do as Cardinal Chunder says. So if your a bit competitive you might want to find an alternate home.

Sounds like you don't have logic on your side.

BTW- whens the last time someone has said they don't mind down hits, so long as you don't put together a case for reasoning behind it? You're all very fishy

[The Next Dyvim Tvar]

BTW- whens the last time someone has said they don't mind down hits, so long as you don't put together a case for reasoning behind it?

Well to be fair Nagash basically plays using the "dick handbook" as a guideline, so when he says that it's pretty much a given he means it.
Hai OAFS, still haven't forgiven you for downhitting me in Maxim!;-p

[Nether]

So I wasn't around when I should have been otherwise this would have been alot uglier earlier on, I have hit though and I asume Mickal appreciated the attention. My apoligizes for being late Kwaiq but when my wife wears those floss panties and looks at me the way she did, lets just say babies get made and leave it at that.

Downhit uphit who knows. Kwaiq told me what happened and showed me the facts of what he had found out I was all for hitting someone, besides its been ages since I hit Nag and company and I was starting to think they had forgotten about me =[

[Seska Dragonslayer]

I was high. I got mixed up on the who was who here.

In any case, all I has to say is I saw the scumkill happen.

It wasn't barny, or I'd have been in the know. If it WAS barny, I would have personally been scumkilling Kwaiqs once upon a time 46K acre dwarf.....not his 14K acres goblin or whichever one it was. Killing small realms is stupid, when there are much more tasty marks on the table!

Not that I scumkill anyway. I sorc kill

Kthxbai!

[MoP]

Wtf, this is just lame. I haven't been online since friday, so your point "there were only 12 turns in your entire guild" is total bollocks. I have had full turns since about saturday evening on both realms. I sent you all our guilds offensive steal news from the past days. All of it. A total of 5 scum actions.

All I can say is well done Barnabas.

[_Nagash_]

Our offensive steal news of the last WEEK amounts to a page and a half. Do the maths. It wasn't us.

And Nether, of course we didn't forget about you! I'm just waiting for Kwaiq's "proof". I wonder what's taking so long.

[MoP]

Well, since we can't do shit after this downhit, I suppose it's over for us. CCTV asks Combri for peace.

[Dysh]

It is really stupid to scumkill Leto if CCTV and the blue team did that. Real stupid.

[Reylan Talonspyre]

That is why down hits suck. You can never get in any good retaliation.

I love you MoP.

[MoP]

It is really stupid to scumkill Leto if CCTV and the blue team did that. Real stupid.

For once, you're so very right. I dunno what upsets me most: the downhit, the fact that Kwaiq even thinks we're THAT stoopid, or the fact that he believes Barnabas leadership blindly.

[Reylan Talonspyre]

Really MoP, who the hell is he supposed to trust? Dysh?

/stifles laughter

[_Nagash_]

My experience is that Dysh is one of the most trustworthy people as long as he's in your faith. So yes.
Being Angie now, I'd trust Dysh as far as I can throw him. Such is the way of things.

Still poor misguided Kwaiqers rather trusts Steven. I've never been in his faith, but I'm inclined to think that the trusting Steven thing is much like trusting Dysh.

[Reylan Talonspyre]

I've never been in his faith, but I'm inclined to think that the trusting Steven thing is much like trusting Dysh.

I trusted Steven while in Angelique when I "pulled a Reylan" and asked his guild to destroy Leto for me. He had his own reasons, but I had wanted them brought low for a change. Mainly because their arrogance was really upsetting at the time. I paid for that and handed WTFPWND the age they had already sealed shut on their own.

Steven never lied to me about what was going to happen. He was a great ally. The point is, sometimes you just have to stop being paranoid for one moment (trust me I have a hard time doing that) and let it go. Dysh and Steven are very trustworthy individuals, neither of them would lie to your face.

I would trust Dysh for treaties and promises. That is the truth.

He just comes off as the Mayor Daley Sr. of Leto.

If I went over there, I am pretty sure he would make me bang on doors and hand out fliers for fund raisers or something.